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#alttext

Jupiter Rowland
37 minutes ago
So much about #AltText and #ImageDescriptions being only for #Blind and #VisuallyImpaired users.

Nope. An informative #ImageDescription can be useful for anyone.

And that's one of the reasons why mine are so extremely long and detailed, and why I put them into the post text itself.

Simon wrote the following post Fri, 29 Sep 2023 21:57:28 +0200 I don't have fabulous eyesight, but I wouldn't consider myself visually impaired. Still I have come to appreciate #AltText a lot – like A LOT – because it provides exactly the context that I need to really understand a picture. More than half of the pictures would be completely lost on me without alt text.

Pictures without alt text feel to me like a phone call with that friend of mine who always says things like: 'You know they got themselves a Jumbleflux for 4K' – but having never even heard about a Jumbleflux, I don't know if 4K is dirt cheap or massively overpriced, so I don't know how to react.

Pictures without alt text just have me begging: Please tell me, what are we looking at, and why did you want us to see it?
GMate8
2 hours ago

I only boost context with #AltText for #accessibility reasons.

Be afraid and run. Spiderkind do not fool around. They do -not- taste delicious, no matter how much they promise they do. You will never know in any case, because they are ravenous. #Respect #spiders

#alttext : Ember perches in front of a graveyard-like collection of tiny wooden signs in a garden. The signs warn of spiders in the garden, and to run away.

Rozzychan
2 hours ago

@jblue

You are a pro at #alttext I never expected to learn that acorns change flavor the longer they are heated in a text description.
I wanna go try it now. 👍

Curtis Wilcox
3 hours ago

@ronaldsvilcins
Alt text:
Captain America in The Winter Soldier, surrounded by tough guys in an elevator, says, "I'm a graphic designer."
A bald guy in glasses asks, "Which software do you use?"
Cap answers, "Canva."
All the tough guys attack Cap.

#AltText

What this means on BOTH platforms #altText

#fediverse
#mastodon
Hands down MUCH better culturally.
has reasonably good descriptions. The way it is set up I see the text OR the image.
Mental blue screen of death is rare.
People DO add text and preferentially boost images with descriptions that match well or are are good by themselves
👇
BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED COMMUNITY AVAILABLE TO CONSULT WITH

For someone with my visual processing problems bsky is HOSTILE
I get blocked FOR THIS FAXT

Claudius Link
4 hours ago

@jeffowski
Thanks for the reminder. It's 🤬

Could you please add #AltText

@ocrbot en
Might provide the base

Catherine Schmidt
5 hours ago

Tiger Lilly, tabby and white her back with a half twist to the side, back toes curled, face toward camera. She is in her old kitten cave. The kitten cave in the shape an octagon with mesh sides. She is looking out the door. Throw a towel over the top and it becomes a secure cave. In the close up, her eyes are slitted.
#Cats #CatsOfMastodon #Caturday #alttext #ALT

Tiger Lilly, tabby and white her back with a half twist to the side, back toes curled,  face toward camera. She is in her old kitten cave. The kitten cave in the shape an octagon with mesh sides. She is looking out the door.  Throw a towel over the top and it becomes a secure cave.  In the close up, her eyes are slitted.
Mar :purplecheck:
5 hours ago

Wind, thunder and lightning, very little rain, but we did get a double rainbow.

#AltText

A double rainbow with colors of orange, yellow and a little green against the stormy morning sky. The sky looks brown but it's really gray.
the happy leftist
7 hours ago

America's Founding Fathers sitting around a table discussing: "So we agree that the whole government can be shut down by a consensus of Congress's ten biggest weirdos?"

Comic by Paul Noth
@DemocracyMattersALot #Alt4You #AltText

@Sweetbee Die beiden Bilder des Ausgangsposts zeigen einmal den Griff der Eingangstür der Metzgerei in Form einer abgehackten Schweinepfote, und im zweiten Bild sind zwei Türgriffe in Form von eingeschlagenen Hackebeilen. #ALT4you #alttext #blind #visuallyImpared

Imagery by Rihilism
8 hours ago

A velvet leaf (Abutilon theophrasti seems likely) seed pod. Was thinking while editing that I'm not sure I've seen a velvet leaf flower just the seed heads & flower buds. I took a look at Wikipedia's entry and they actually have nice little yellow flowers with typical Malvaceae family features. Have to see if I can't find one next time I'm out.
(09/21/23)

#wildflowers #flowers #FlowerPhotography #FlowerMastodon #nature #NaturePhotography #macro #MacroPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of a velvet leaf seed pod with velvet leaf stems, leaves, and flower buds visible in the background. The pods consists of a large number of wedge-shaped segments joined together vertically into a thick cup with a narrow, concave center. Each segment has a large, pointed protrusion on the outer ring of the cup that also gives the pod a crown-like appearance.
Aaron John Dizon
9 hours ago

Here is a photo of me taken in front of #Milan cathedral that I've ask LLaVA to describe for me. to my sighted friends, I'll appreciate you giving feedback on its accuracy.

Description:
The image features a man wearing a pink shirt standing in front of a large, ornate building with a blue sky in the background. The building appears to be a cathedral, as it has a tall structure and a prominent clock tower. The man is holding a camera, possibly taking a picture of the impressive building.
There are several other people in the scene, some of them closer to the foreground and others further in the background. They seem to be enjoying their time near the cathedral, possibly admiring its architecture or taking photos as well.

#Blind #Blindness #Accessibility #BlindPhotography #Photography #AltText #AltText4Me #Milano #Duomo #Italy #PH #Pinoy #Philippines #LLaVA

The image features a man wearing a pink shirt standing in front of a large, ornate building with a blue sky in the background. The building appears to be a cathedral, as it has a tall structure and a prominent clock tower. The man is holding a camera, possibly taking a picture of the impressive building.
There are several other people in the scene, some of them closer to the foreground and others further in the background. They seem to be enjoying their time near the cathedral, possibly admiring its architecture or taking photos as well.
Aaron John Dizon
9 hours ago

for those who need #image descriptions or #AltText for photos, here is a model that pretty much does it. It is called #LLaVA. I will post a sample image with a description on my next post and let you sighted friends comment on it. 😁

https://llava.hliu.cc/
#Blind #Blindness #Accessibility #BlindPhotography #AltText4Me

terribletom
10 hours ago

Behold the fluff! Cosmo says I’m belly-up because it’s so damn hot, but you might as well go ahead and tummy-rub me.
#caturday.

#AltText: A long-haired orange kit stretched out on his back on a red sofa background, his fluffy belly screaming for a rub. Clownishly cute.

Starsong Dusk
12 hours ago

A birthday present for my dear friend Harvest Moonsprite! We set out to draw one thing, and in the end it ended up becoming something completely different. Lol, I swear, half the time I start a drawing with an intention, it ends up turning into something completely unrelated!

One of my very first goals with drawing back in the day was to one day emulate the style of the incredible MagnaLuna. Their style and mastery of color inspires me almost as much as CosmicUnicorn does. I decided to take a stab at it again, though now with 2 years art experienced and an established art style under my belt. I have to say, I'm pleased with the result!

I'll post a link to MagnaLuna's profile on a separate post, owing to the NSFW of some of their work.

More of my art can be found on my DeviantArt profile at https://www.deviantart.com/starsongdusk , everything I draw ends up there eventually!

#traditionalart #pencil #twilightsparkle #mastoart #art #pony #alicorn #butterfly #redraw #MagnaLuna #StarsongDusk #alttext

A traditional pencil drawing of Twilight Sparkle in alicorn form. She is standing on a rock looking upward at a butterfly which has alighted on her nose with a happy smile and love in her eyes. She is perched and holding still so as not to disturb the butterfly.

Be warned, the cuteness level is potentially lethal. Viewer discretion is advised.
helplessduck
15 hours ago

@sollat

Arguably the best #ALTText, ever.

cohan
16 hours ago

Just realised the video thumbnail didn't give a chance for #AltText - image shows a golden apple-crab - like a small apple, with a smaller bright red crab-apple. The crab-apple has a few bright gold leaves, and both are draped with the leaves of a fireweed stem in sunset colours of gold, orange, pinky and red.
This is one corner of the altar, which is a mass of foliage, flowers, seed heads, pieces of wood and stone- evoking the feeling of autumn in glowing colour and the hint of winter to come.

#accessibility
#Disability
#AltText
#Harassment
IF YOU want to be HELPFUL to people who cannot understand an image without a well crafted piece of alt text...
It is obvious that they would be consulted on the question of WHAT THEY NEED AND WANT.
If you REFUSE to consult those people

You obviously don't WANT to TO BE HELPFUL.

Simon
1 day ago

I don't have fabulous eyesight, but I wouldn't consider myself visually impaired. Still I have come to appreciate #AltText a lot – like A LOT – because it provides exactly the context that I need to really understand a picture. More than half of the pictures would be completely lost on me without alt text.

Pictures without alt text feel to me like a phone call with that friend of mine who always says things like: 'You know they got themselves a Jumbleflux for 4K' – but having never even heard about a Jumbleflux, I don't know if 4K is dirt cheap or massively overpriced, so I don't know how to react.

Pictures without alt text just have me begging: Please tell me, what are we looking at, and why did you want us to see it?

Franz Graf
1 day ago

Just wanted to remind: If you are bored of writing alt-texts yourself (like me!), let technology do it for you!

I wrote a tiny frontend for https://astica.ai/vision/describe-images/23191/ -- paid them a small amount of money (after trying out the free tier for a while) and now use their service for all my alt-texts.

And heck - those alt-texts are better than I could do it my own. Feel free to use it as well (but you need to pay astica, I don't do this for you 😉)

https://alt-generator.franzgraf.de/

#alttext #photography

Simon
1 day ago

An account with about 20K followers posts media without #AltText or, even worse, uses alt text for 'funny', but entirely non-descriptive comments about the picture.

That's exactly what you'd expect of such an account, isn't it?

I write a reply to one of their posts and point out that alt text is missing while it is important for many people. In addition to that, I provide an image description for the media in the post, ready to be copy-pasted into the alt text field.

Any reaction? No, crickets, of course. But I'm still disappointed.

I'm sure you don't have to be such a person to get 20K followers, but it seems to help.

Jenny
1 day ago

@jsjoshua @icymi_law #AltText for video clip in post above:
[A beach scene. Falling from the sky, the Spaceballs and what is left of Mega Maid land on the Planet of the Apes.]
Ape #1: Dear me. What are these things coming out of her nose?
[One of the apes takes his binoculars out and sees Colonel Sandurz, Dark Helmet, and President Skroob coming out of Mega Maid's nose]
Dark Helmet: Hey, hey, hey. Watch my Helmet.
Ape #2: Spaceballs.
Ape #1: Oh, shit. There goes the planet.

Mensch, Marina
1 day ago

@gigabecquerel #AltText Picture of a hand holding a glass of water. Text underneath: There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in the entire Solar System.

Should Be Writing
1 day ago

What is that trick to request that someone alt text your pics? Is it just putting #alttext in the post?

#DianneFeinstein has passed away. She was 90 years old. #today #Mastodon #alttxt #alttext rest well.

Tv image that reads: California senator Dianne Feinstein dead at 90.
aoe
1 day ago

@berlintypography #ServiceToot #AltText #blind
Beeindruckendes Foto, daher Bildbeschreibung:
Bröckelnde Brandmauer eines alten Miethauses.
Darauf die folgende Werbung:
„Was trinken wir? Schultheiss Bier“
Logo der Marke mit der Darstellung eines altertümlichen Bürgermeisters.
Darunter mit Abstand „GROTERJAN MALZBIER“

Imagery by Rihilism
1 day ago
Image of a yellow evening primrose flower and flower bud surrounded by blue sage flowers. Evening primrose has four heart shaped petals that overlap each other, eight yellow stamens with long, fuzzy anthers, and a large pistil that is green at its base and light yellow-green stigma.

#NothingAboutUsWithoutUs
👆

Remember that?
#Accessibility #AltText
#Disability #Communication

Why are so many FULLY SIGHTED AND HAVING FUNCTIONALLY ABLED LANGUAGE BASED NCOMMUNICATION SKILLS..

Centering themselves in WHAT ALT TEXT RULES APPLY TO DISABLED PEOPLE WHOSE LIVED EXPERIENCE THOSE "EXPERTS"
DON'T SHARE?

Frankie
1 day ago
Two young, white women – Fanny and Phoebe – being intimate in a four-poster bed with curtains decorated in flowers. Phoebe is propped on an elbow with one leg raised, leaning over to fondle Fanny’s fanny (aka, her vulva). Both have their breasts and unshaven vulvas exposed. Fanny appears to be in raptures. This is an illustration from the old English erotic novel Fanny Hill and this scene takes place in the first part, when Fanny is still quite new to sexual pleasures. Phoebe is one of her many instructors in the arts.
Jupiter Rowland
1 day ago
@Kaylie #Alt4Me, #AltText4Me = "Can someone please write an #AltText for me?"

#Alt4You, #AltText4You = "Here's an alt-text that I've written for you. You may want to edit your original post and copy-paste it in."
Imagery by Rihilism
1 day ago

Orb-weaver spider greeting the morning sunrise above a foggy Iowa River along the #IowaRiverTrail.
(09/18/23)

#Sunrise #SunrisePhotography #arachnid #arachnids #spider #spiders #nature #NaturePhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of an orb-weaver spider in the middle of its spiral web that is stretched between two bridge supports. The background consists of an out of focus river with trees on the far side and land on the near side and fog above the river's surface. The sun has just risen above the treeline on the far side of the river and is just below the upper bridge support. The light is diffracted by the trees and bridge support creating a starburst.
Imagery by Rihilism
1 day ago

An orange sulfur butterfly (Colias eurytheme seems likely) gathering nectar from some clover at the #WaterWorksPrairiePark in Iowa City, Iowa.
(09/09/23)

#butterfly #butterflies #pollinators #flowers #FlowerPhotography #insects #InsectPhotography #nature #NaturePhotography #macro #MacroPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Closeup image of an orange sulfur butterfly atop a clover flower. Orange sulfurs are yellow-green on their front wings with brown and white spots. Their eyes are yellow-green with darker spots. The back of the butterfly's wings is not visible but typically is orange and brown with dark and light markings. The butterfly is standing on the flower's florets and has its proboscis extended out and down into one of the open florets.
Kyle Memoir
2 days ago

A sunflower series. These are all from the Festival Theatre garden by the bookshop a week or two ago.

#Stratford #PerthCounty #Ontario #Canada #photography #alttext
#Shakespeare #Festival #Theatre

A large sunflower seen from behind contemplates a wide blue sky.
The top of a sunflower seen from behind like a rising sun over a horizontal blur of foreground greenery. A slash of blue sky provides background.
A fat sunflower and two broad green leaves seen from behind against a bright blue sky with starburst-like clouds.
Jenna
2 days ago

Is it alright to inject some humor in your #AltText?

Matthias Smed Larsen
2 days ago

How do people who use #AltText for #Accessibility feel about using it to describe the context of an image?

For example, I just had to do alt text for a meme which is literally just an old painting, but has a specific meaning in its memetic context. It also has no shorthand name used to refer to it. I felt that simply describing the image without noting its contextual use would be misleading, but at the same time it could be seen as departing from the main purpose of alt text.

#ScreenReader

Imagery by Rihilism
2 days ago

University of Iowa power plant stacks reflected in the Iowa River.
(03/01/22)

#infrastructure #architecture #utilities #university #power #energy #river #sky #abstract #AbstractPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of the University of Iowa's power plant stacks reflected in the Iowa River. The stacks and associated buildings are upside down due to reflection and only the reflection is visible in the photo. The stack and buildings are distorted with sharp, serrated edges and horizontal scattering due to the ripples in the river. Colors are subdued and consist of white clouds, blue sky, grey and black stacks, and grey and brown buildings.
Imagery by Rihilism
2 days ago

New England Aster or Michaelmas Daisy (Symphyotrichum novae-angliae seems likely).
(09/21/23)

#garden #gardening #flowers #FlowerPhotography #FlowerMastodon #nature #macro #MacroPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of a New England aster flowers. These asters have a daisy-like structure with long, purple-pink petals radiating from a yellow central disk. The background is out of focus green foliage.
Image of a New England aster flowers. These asters have a daisy-like structure with long, purple-pink petals radiating from a yellow central disk. The background is out of focus green foliage.
Image of a New England aster flowers. These asters have a daisy-like structure with long, purple-pink petals radiating from a yellow central disk. The background is out of focus green foliage.
Imagery by Rihilism
2 days ago

I've consistently deadheaded my Cosmos with an assist from the hungry grasshoppers. That work has resulted in a nice little mass bloom. I'd prefer that the grasshoppers ate the fading blooms rather than the nutritious buds and new petals but whatyagonnado? Next year I'll have to institute a grasshopper training regime so that we're both on the same page.
(09/27/23)

#garden #gardening #flowers #FlowerPhotography #FlowerMastodon #nature #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of a large group of Cosmos flowers and accompanying foliage. Cosmos flowers have a daisy-like structure with long petals radiating from a central disk. There are three varieties pictured; a red and white striped variety, a red variety, and a pure white variety.
Image of a large group of Cosmos flowers and accompanying foliage. Cosmos flowers have a daisy-like structure with long petals radiating from a central disk. There are three varieties pictured; a red and white striped variety, a red variety, and a pure white variety.
Image of a large group of Cosmos flowers and accompanying foliage. Cosmos flowers have a daisy-like structure with long petals radiating from a central disk. There are three varieties pictured; a red and white striped variety, a red variety, and a pure white variety.
Ed
3 days ago
Six sketches on 12 note cards: 

A teddy bear riding on a cart riding on single wheel. 
An alien with a large eyeball for a head on a tassled pair of bell bottom pants with a sparkly cape. 
A pair of blue slimes on a chicken body. 
A space goose on a rocket pod. 
An alien with one eyeball reading a book on a classic scifi robot body. 
A pair of spooky eyes in a cloak on a streamlined carbon fiber racing unicycle.
Imagery by Rihilism
3 days ago

New England Aster or Michaelmas Daisy (Symphyotrichum novae-angliae seems likely).
(09/21/23)

#garden #gardening #flowers #FlowerPhotography #FlowerMastodon #nature #macro #MacroPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of a New England aster flower. These asters have a daisy-like structure with long, purple-pink petals radiating from a yellow central disk. The background is out of focus green foliage.
Kyle Memoir
3 days ago

A quick 40 km burn out to Shakespeare and back this aft. Fall is definitely here.

#cycling #gravelbike #Stratford #PerthCounty #Ontario #Canada #photography #alttext

A paved rural road arrows off to the right of a stand of maple trees already showing patches of the reds and oranges of fall. We’re at a crossroads with a cornfield in the left foreground and something golden (probably soybeans) in the field beyond.

This appeared in my timeline & I could not resist boosting it (with #alttext)

#artificialintelligence

I just love the 2001 reference in the last frame....

h/t @mrundkvist

Cartoon: Evolution of Smart Products.

1. Toaster - makes toast
2. Toaster, WiFi enabled - Makes toast after making you wait for a firmware update;
3. Data-driven toaster - makes toast by watching how you like toast;
4. Toaster as-a-service - makes toast for $5.99 a month;
5. Advert-supported Toaster - Makes toast & lets you now that suckers is on sale;
6. AI-toaster - 'Toast? I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave'
Instance Coffee
3 days ago

Hey, new AoIR friends! This is just a gentle reminder to add #AltText to your images. This is important for #accessibility

If you uploaded an image without alt text, despair not, my friends. You can go back and edit the image to add some descriptive text.

lori
3 days ago

Quick question for screen reader users because I have seen different opinions on this but not all of those opinions have been from people who use screen readers so I don't really know which way to go with this.

If I post an image that is, say, a screenshot of a wall of text, and it is important that all of that text be transcribed, what do you prefer? The transcription to be in the alt text, or to be in a followup post?

(Just for extra info, when I've done the second option, I've usually done something like "screenshot of a post by Whoever, transcription in replies", so it's still clear what the image is and that a transcription exists)

Also please, if you do not use a screen reader at all, refrain from voting. I want to hear what helps people who need it the most.

#AltText #accessibility #a11y #blind

Aitch - Þei/Þem
3 days ago

2 of 2:

However, AI generated alt text still needs human oversight. The algorithms used to detect what is in an image, and the algorithms used to generate the text, are not foolproof, so any output will need fine tuning at the very least. Feel free to make a first pass with Gen-AI, but ensure that all output has been inspected by an actual content creator before allowing it to go live.

#accessibility #AltText

Aitch - Þei/Þem
3 days ago

1 of 2:

In the wake of generative AI advancements, there has been a rise in software and applications that will generate alt text for you. The logic systems that are employed to generate this alt text are getting better all the time, and certainly provide a quicker and easier means of creating alt text for the general population, especially on social media.

#accessibility #alttext

Aitch - Þei/Þem
3 days ago

Today I have had to add a new section to my alt-text writing guidance at work. About Gen-AI alt-text generators.

Find it in the thread:

#accessibility #AI #alttext

Imagery by Rihilism
3 days ago

The second bloom on my second orchid stem has fully bloom'th. It was exciting seeing the new buds forming just as the previous had reached their zenith. I don't think Phaleanopsis will bloom a third time from the same stem but if not it seems to be happy and I know I should get a new stem at some point 🤞.
(09/26/23)

#plants #houseplant #houseplants #flowers #FlowerPhotography #FlowerMastodon #nature #macro #MacroPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of a Phaleanopsis orchid flower. Phaleanopsis have five pointed, tear-shaped petals the radiate from the flower's center where large reproductive structures extend outward. This variety has pale yellow flowers that fade to pink and dark pink spots towards the flower's center. The surface of the petals are covered with reflective specks that give the surface a shimmering appearance. The background is out of focus green foliage.
patter
3 days ago

Hmmm, the #alttext as bonus content, like image attribution, as well as a reasonable description

Imagery by Rihilism
3 days ago

This looks to be a native black-shouldered drone fly (Eristalis dimidiata suggests the ID app) atop a native evening primrose along the #IowaRiverTrail. Black-shouldered are a species of hoverfly and in addition to the bee-like colors/patterns this species is roughly the size of a bee or a small bumblebee.
(09/21/23)

#fly #flies #pollinators #flowers #FlowerPhotography #insects #InsectPhotography #nature #NaturePhotography #macro #MacroPhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Closeup image of a black-shouldered drone fly (Eristalis dimidiata) on a yellow evening primrose flower. A species of hover fly, the black-shouldered has a black abdomen with thin white striping, a black thorax and head, two large eyes, two small antennae, black legs, and transparent wings with black veining.
Jupiter Rowland
3 days ago
@KubikPixel™ Kommt ganz drauf an, was man will.

Die beste direkte Alternative dürfte #Firefish ex #CalcKey sein, das #Mastodon in Features weit voraus ist. #Volltextsuche hat Mastodon gerade erst eingeführt, so daß die mangels brauchbarer Indizes noch gar nicht richtig nutzbar ist. Firefish hatte sie schon immer, weil auch #Misskey sie schon immer hatte.

#Textformatierungen und #Zitate konnten Firefish und Misskey meines Wissens auch schon immer. Mastodon kann beides nur anzeigen, während Firefish sogar Textformatierungen erzeugen kann, die Mastodon nicht anzeigen kann.

Oder Zeichenlimits beim Schreiben von Posts. Mastodon kann nur 500 Zeichen. Für mehr muß der Admin so tief in die Software einsteigen, daß man fast schon von einem Fork reden könnte. Firefish kann standardmäßig 3000 Zeichen, was der Admin meines Wissens auf der Oberfläche einstellen, also noch erhöhen kann. Zugegeben, beide hacken #AltText rigoros bei 1500 Zeichen ab.

Last but not least unterstützt Firefish meines Wissens die Mastodon-API, sollte also gute Unterstützung durch Mastodon-Apps haben bis darauf, daß man mit Apps, die nur für Mastodon entwickelt werden, auch fast nur das machen kann, was Mastodon kann.

#Friendica ist natürlich noch mächtiger. Es hat Zeichenlimits in den Zigtausenden, es unterstützt wohl noch mehr Formatierungen, es hat einen Filehoster eingebaut, es hat einen öffentlichen Kalender eingebaut, man kann Konten als moderierte Gruppen/Foren einrichten usw. Und es hat mit all dem schon Erfahrungein seit 2010.

Der Hauptnachteil dürfte aber sein, daß es weiter von Mastodon entfernt ist als Firefish. Es gibt mehr, was anders ist und anders läuft. Was man auf Mastodon gelernt oder von Twitter mitgenommen hat, kann man auf Friendica eigentlich gleich wieder vergessen.

Posts schreibt man nicht wie Tweets, sondern wie Blogposts. Bilder werden nicht als Dateien angehängt, sondern woanders hochgeladen (meistens im eingebauten Dateispeicher) und irgendwo im Text eingebettet. Alt-Text ist kein separates Feld, sondern muß per Hand in den BBcode eingeflochten werden. Ein Content-Warning-Feld gibt's nicht, aber eins für den Titel und eins für die Zusammenfassung, wobei sich letzteres dann als dasselbe wie Content Warnings auf Mastodon entpuppt. Direktnachrichten gehen nicht mit @ und Rechteeinstellen, sondern mit !. Antworten sind nicht auch Posts, sondern Kommentare, und das ist ganz was anderes als ein Post. Und so weiter.

Klar, Friendica kann mehr und einiges auch besser, aber Mastodon-Umsteiger müssen im Prinzip alles ganz neu lernen.

#Streams von 2021 ist in Teilen noch mächtiger als Friendica (wobei ein Teil von Friendicas Features wieder fehlt), #Hubzilla von 2015 ist durchweg noch sehr viel mächtiger. Aber hier ist die Umgewöhnung noch heftiger, alleine schon, weil die eigene Identität nicht durchs Konto definiert ist, sondern in einem Kanal "containerisiert". Und man kann auf demselben Konto mehrere Kanäle mit separaten Identitäten haben. Und dann kommt noch #NomadischeIdentität oben drauf, auch wenn die eigentlich der feuchte Traum vieler Mastodon-Nutzer ist. Sie erfordert nur eben Um-die-Ecke-Denken.

Hubzilla ist natürlich so ziemlich der ultimative Alleskönner. Es ist mehr als nur Friendica mit ein bißchen Extrazeugs, wobei vieles genauso funktioniert wie auf Friendica und somit ganz anders als auf Mastodon.

Hubzilla ist ein "Social CMS", das einem neben Social Networking und Gar-nicht-so-Microblogging auch voll formatiertes Macroblogging bietet, das sich in der Funktion kaum vom Gar-nicht-so-Microblogging unterscheidet, außerdem einfache Websites, Wikis, Cloudspeicher mit WebDAV, CalDAV und CardDAV und so weiter und so fort. Oben drauf gibt's ein sehr detailliertes Rechtemanagement, das auch eng verzahnt ist mit #SingleSignOn durch #OpenWebAuth.

Aber auf der einen Seite steht dieser gigantische Funktionsberg, und auf der anderen Seite steht die Benutzeroberfläche. An sich könnte die extrem flexibel sein, sie unterstützt Komplett-Themes, die für jeden Kanal individuell wählbar wären. In der Praxis gibt es aber nur noch ein Theme, das gepflegt wird. Das ist noch von 2012, wurde aus einem Friendica-Standardthema für die #RedMatrix umgebaut, hat sich seitdem kaum bis gar nicht verändert und hat mit Usability kaum etwas zu tun. Alternativen sind in der Mache, aber noch nicht offiziell verfügbar.

Dazu kommt die Dokumentation. Die wurde geschrieben von Entwicklern, die nicht wußten, wie man Nichtentwicklern etwas erklärt, also z. B. ganz normalen Endnutzern, und liest sich streckenweise eher wie ein technisches Lastenhaft. Noch dazu ist sie zu erheblichen Teilen so hoffnungslos veraltet, daß sie überhaupt nicht nutzbar ist.

Ach ja: Textformatierung gibt's. Textformatierung mit Klickibunti und Echtzeit-WYSIWYG gibt's nicht. Wer keinen BBcode kann, hat verloren, weil einem auch die Buttons nur BBcode in den Editor packen. Auch wenn zum Glück zumindest die BBcode-Implementation von Hubzilla ziemlich gut dokumentiert und halbwegs aktuell ist.

(streams) hat nicht mehr den Funktionsumfang von Hubzilla. Das Ziel ist hier eigentlich nicht, von vornherein einen Alleskönner zu haben, sondern eine Codebasis, um daraus was feines Eigenes zu bauen. Die Oberfläche sieht ganz ähnlich aus, ist aber einen Tick zugänglicher, vielleicht auch deshalb, weil es vieles einfach nicht mehr gibt. Erleichternd dürfte für einige dazukommen, daß auf (streams) alles wahlweise mit BBcode, Markdown oder HTML formatiert werden kann, so daß man keinen BBcode lernen muß, wenn man schon Markdown kann.

(streams) hat auch eine bessere Anbindung von #ActivityPub und Verbesserungen in der nomadischen Identität. Dafür kann es sich mit nichts anderem mehr verbinden, außer daß es immer noch RSS-Feeds erzeugt und E-Mail-Benachrichtigungen verschicken kann.

Näher an Mastodon ist es damit aber nicht. Im Gegenteil: Verwirrend ist schon mal, daß es sich nicht um ein in sich geschlossenes Projekt mit Namen und Marke handelt. Es ist gar kein Projekt, sondern nur ein Code-Repository. Es hat auch keinen Namen und kein Logo. Es ist wirklich mit voller Absicht namenlos. Der Name "Streams" und das Wellenlogo gehören beide zum Repository, nicht zur Software. Daher auch die Klammern um den "Namen".

Das heißt auch, daß die einzelnen Instanzen keine einheitliche Projektidentität haben. Mastodon-Instanzen identifizieren sich alle als Mastodon. Hubzilla-Instanzen identifizieren sich alle als Hubzilla. (streams)-Instanzen identifizieren sich als irgendwas, weil man da selbst etwas eintragen kann und muß. Waitman Gobbles öffentliche Instanz namens Rumbly identifiziert sich beispielsweise nicht als "Streams", sondern als "-get".

Folge: Es ist nicht möglich, (streams)-Instanzen automatisiert zu crawlen, zu identifizieren und aufzulisten. Das wird noch zusätzlich dazu erschwert, daß mit ebenso voller Absicht die Statistikausgabe aus (streams) komplett entfernt wurde. Die einschlägigen Projekt- und Instanz-Listenseiten fürs #Fediverse listen allesamt keine (streams)-Instanzen, und das werden sie auch nicht, weil das zum einen nicht gewollt und zum anderen wegen der uneinheitlichen Identifikation der Instanzen gar nicht möglich ist.

Folge: (streams)-Instanzen zu finden, ist Detektivarbeit. Das dürfte auch erklären, warum es bei (streams) einen noch höheren Anteil an persönlichen Instanzen gibt, zumal es kaum öffentliche Instanzen mit offener Registrierung gibt.

Ein gemeinsamer Nachteil von Hubzilla und (streams) ist: Smartphone-Apps kann man vergessen. Für Hubzilla gibt's eine, die seit 2018 nicht mehr gepflegt wird, also mehr als die Hälfte der Zeit, die es Hubzilla gibt. Die funktioniert inzwischen gar nicht mehr. Und auch die hat den Fokus nur aufs Mikroblogging gelegt.

(streams) wird wohl nie eine Smartphone-App haben, eben weil es kein in sich geschlossenes Projekt mit fixer Projektidentität ist.

Beide unterstützen nicht die Mastodon-API, soweit ich weiß. Also ist man so oder so auf den Webbrowser angeweisen. Andererseits sind beide Projekte so mächtig, daß es kaum möglich sein dürfte, ihren jeweils kompletten Funktionsumfang in eine dann immer noch leicht bedienbare Smartphone-App zu pressen.
Alfonso Roberto
4 days ago

@handmade_ghost it's the opportunity to play around with the #alttext that I love on #mastodon

oh, dude, that image you posted was cool. be even cooler if it had #alttext though 😎

The ‘Community’ category in the emoji drawer on Tooters :tooters: continues to grow. :0w0_is: :foxvictor:

#AltText #Fedi

A screenshot of various emoji in the ‘Community’ category of the custom emoji drawer on tooters.org. Compromised of some duplicated emoji to give them shortcodes specific to account holders on tooters, the logos for various ActivityPub software, and other instances on the fediverse.
Jan Adriaenssens
4 days ago

Hear me out: collaborative alt-text

——

A nice addition to Mastodon (ActivityPub?) might be to suggest/contribute better alt-text descriptions for pictures to the author of the post.

So many threads on this forum are complaints for bad/missing alt-texts, suggestions of better alt-texts,… while most people posting here really do make an effort.

I’m definitely open to functionality where a follower could suggest a better alt-text, and I could accept that suggestion.

#alttext #mastodon

Jenny
4 days ago

@w7voa #AltText #AltText4U #Alt4U

1/3

Statement by National Security Council Spokesperson Adrienne Watson on Explosion at Fuel Depot in Nagorno-Karabakh

We are saddened by the news that at least 68 people have been killed and hundreds injured in an explosion at a fuel depot in Nagorno-Karabakh and express deep sympathy to the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh and to all of those suffering. We urge continued humanitarian access to Nagorno-Karabakh for all those in need. (cont’d)

Here's a pic of me, taken at a sports bar, about a month ago. The #AltText was generated by the #accessibility app called Be My Eyes, with help from Chat GPT. How did it do?

Be My AI: The picture shows an older man sitting at a wooden bar counter in what appears to be a sports bar. He is wearing a green long-sleeve shirt with text on it that reads "Head of the Charles Regatta, Cambridge 1965". He has short white hair and is making a funny face by puckering his lips. He is holding a white plate with some salad on it and there is a glass with a small amount of beer next to him. Behind him, there are other patrons at the bar and the walls are adorned with sports memorabilia including framed jerseys and pictures. The atmosphere seems casual and relaxed.
Steve Frenzel
4 days ago

I really like the newest version of the #mastodon app for #android.

Really the only thing I'm missing is a little warning icon for missing #AltText of images, like in #Megalodon.

Artist Marcia X
5 days ago

Hey newish #photographer on the fediverse.

Are you uploading some of your favorite photos you've recently shot? Are you looking forward to posting in a place that isn't dictated by a corporate algorithm? Which means ppl will see your posts!!??

Are you wondering why you're not getting a lot of reboosts and engagement??

If you're not putting in alt text/image descriptions that could be why. Try it and see how many boosts you start to get. :)

#believeinfilm #photography #canon #nikon #alttext

Tyrone Slothrop
5 days ago

@Poweruser Großartig!

Bildbeschreibung: Ein älterer weißer Mann steht auf der Straße und hält ein Pappschild hoch. Darauf steht/

„Wehret den Anfängen! Ich stehe hier und schäme mich für die 694 AFD-Wähler in Ochsenfurt“

#alttext

MDMRN
5 days ago

#Boost freely

Use #AltText

Capitalize / #CamelCase your #Hashtags

Be kind

Let's keep #Mastodon accessible and friendly

Bread and Circuses
5 days ago

@TRZPhotography I would love to boost this post, and I will -- IF you add #AltText. It's easy to do, and will make your posts much more engaging for the community. 😇

Imagery by Rihilism
5 days ago

Living in a medium sized city it's not often I see interactions between large species. The eagle caught a fish & landed on an ephemeral log out of frame to the left. After eating the fish, the eagle hopped to the juvenile great blue heron's log. It's a favorite fishing spot for the eagles so it may have been trying to intimidate but the heron stood its ground.
(09/21/23)

#eagles #raptors #birding #BirdPhotography #WildlifePhotography #nature #NaturePhotography #MastoArt #photography #AltText

Image of an American bald eagle standing on the end of an ephemeral log in a green, slow-moving river and facing a juvenile great blue heron standing at the other end of the log. The log is tilted up on the right, so the heron's knees are at the same level as the eagles head. Bald eagles have brown body feathers, white head and tail feathers, yellow beaks, green-yellow eyes, yellow legs and feet, and sharp, black talons. Juvenile great blue herons have grey-blue and white mottled body feathers, a white cheek, a blue cap, grey beak, and grey legs and feet. The mud, tree roots, and vegetation are visible on the river's shore in the background.
Dgar
5 days ago

That #AltText.
~ oglaf.com (@oglaf)

A lion wearing glasses makes a proposition to his pride. “We take so much from the Gazelle Community” he begins. “This is our chance to repay that debt”. 
Pointing to a plan of a school he continues “I propose we build this Top-Tier Herbivore School”. 
The pride seems unimpressed. 
One asks “But... What do Gazelles even need to learn?”
We see the Gazelles in class learning from a Gazelle teacher “The Circle Of Life” which teaches that the Gazelles eat the grass, the Lions eat the Gazelles, and when the Lions eventually die, their carcasses fertilise the grass, which feeds the Gazelles.
Later we see a Gazelle being caught by a Lion in the wild. As the Lion begins to devour the Gazelle, the now educated herbivore says to the Lion “Thanks for all you do for us!” to which the Lion replies “Honestly it’s nothing”.
Jenna
6 days ago

It’s still #bleptember and my cat is still a goofball :blobfoxlaughsweat:

#cat #cats #catsofmastodon

#AltText: black cat doing a blep, attacking a carrot toy

Laura
6 days ago

@archaeohistories #altText a series of 7 black books on a bookshelf, their spines show a golden outline of a doric column fallin down and become more ruinous with each volume, “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” title written in the columns’ base.

Baethyn
1 week ago

As a #blind GM the bane of my existence when preparing for my #TTRPG of choice is figuring out the #map. Does anyone know of any resources out there that would allow me to take a visual map on a #jPG of #PDF and turn it into a #tactileMap or a #textDescription. I would gladly accept something like #altText but in great detail. I am also open to suggestions for alternative methods. I've run into this with quite a number of games. Boosts are welcome and hoped for. #mapConversion #3DPrinting #embossing

Adding #AltText to toots containing any form of media was already essential in making accessibility front of mind. Now it is even more important because full-text search surfaces results based on keywords found in the alt text too.

Ed Suominen
1 week ago

I provided some basic eyeball-level statistical analysis of this plot in the detailed #AltText. Since this is some of the only information you’ll find now about what’s happening with #Covid in #EasternWashington and to some extent the entire US, it’s worth your time to take a look.

These detailed wastewater plots are still provided by the #Washington Department of Health, thankfully.

a32
1 week ago

Mastodon 4.2 ist jetzt auch social.tchncs.de
Bei Bildern mit Alt-Text steht jetzt unten links fett "ALT", bei welchen ohne Beschreibung steht nichts. Wer denkt sich so etwas aus?

Es muss genau umgekehrt sein.

#Mastodon #Update #AltText #Rant

Megan Lynch (she/her)
1 week ago

Question for screenreader users: What's the etiquette around transcribing something into alt text that is all caps in the image? Does the screenreader "yell" at you when something's all caps? Does it spell out each individual letter? #AltText

Jupiter Rowland
1 week ago
@MitexLeo This couldn't be introduced to the whole #Fediverse as in all projects without an exception.

#Friendica, #Hubzilla and #Streams have a vastly different implementation of #AltText than #Mastodon, #Pleroma, #Akkoma, #Misskey, #Firefish & Co.

That's also because they have a vastly different way of adding images to posts. Not as up to four file attachments, but uploaded to a file space and then linked and embedded within the text like in a blog post or on a website. As many as you want.

So the alt-text is not a file property with a separate text field and its own character count like on Mastodon. Instead, it's part of the image embedding markup code, and it sits within the post text itself.

There's no way you could ever be able to edit that from Mastodon. The only way to do this would be by editing the post itself.

First of all, Mastodon doesn't show Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams) posts nearly in their vanilla states. It completely and utterly mangles them. This includes ripping the images out of the post and converting the last up to four into file attachments because Mastodon doesn't understand embedded images. Community alt-text would only edit what Mastodon has made from the post, not the original.

Second, even if you could edit Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams) original posts from Mastodon, just to have Mastodon re-import and re-convert them afterwards, most Mastodon users would stare at the exposed BBcode that makes up these posts like a deer staring at headlights. Again, it's this BBcode where alt-text is added. Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) do not have dedicated alt-text fields.

And finally, the same tool that'd make adding alt-text to such posts possible would also allow you to edit the rest of the posts or out-right delete them.
H
1 week ago

massively guilty of it myself, but I'm lowkey disappointed how many inaccessible screenshots folks use when communicating about bugs and issues in software development. Quite often literally screenshots of text with no alt text being shared in chat. A shame that teams doesn't prompt for alt text by default. #accessibility #a11y #webdev #softwaredevelopment #communication #disability #alttext

Claudius Link
1 week ago

@CGLambdin
😳 yes
Could you add #AltText?

@ocrbot en
Might help

Here is a proposal:

Photo of a newspaper clipping with the year of publication (1937) circled in red, reading:

Letting the Cat out of the Bag
Anonymous

"What did you tell that man right now? "
"l told him to hurry "
“What right do you have to tell him to hurry?"
"I pay him to hurry."
“How much do you pay him?"
"Four dollars a day."
"Where do you get the money?"
"I sell products.”
"Who makes the products?"
"He does.”
"How many products does he make in a day?"
“Ten dollars' worth."
"Then, instead of you paying him, he pays you $6 a day to stand around and tell him to hurry."
“Well, but I own the machines."
“How did you get the machines?"
"Sold products and bought them.”
"Who made the products?”
“Shut up. He might hear you.”

From United Automobile Worker, October 1937