And then we have DECENTRALAND which is totally not decentralized. (Prove me wrong please show me the code) Their site reads that they are "the first and only decentralized open source metaverse that started in 2020" oh yeah that sounds legit right there.
One of the reasons why I've made this:
#Decentraland #OpenMetaverse #OpenMetaverseAlliance #OMA #OpenSim #OpenSimulator #Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #Meme #ThatsCute
That quote from Tim Sweeney was presented in one of the opening chapters of a long but entertaining web video called 'The Future is a Dead Mall':
Produced by Folding Ideas, it's a deconstruction of the VR hype cycle though the lens of "Metaverse" rhetoric. As a specific example, a crypto pump'n'dumper's online utopia called Decentraland.
More of this kind of video on #PeerTube please!
#Decentraland added the feature to take pictures in world and share as links with rich metadata! 📸
#Decentraland launches Smart Wearables and Portable Experiences ⚡ . They are like standalone apps that follow the user, and are not linked to any particular scene.
I like It there! I find it to be a mix between #SecondLife and #VRChat! :ablobthinking:
Unfortunately, I've not been able to interact a lot with people, just a quick hey with a person that warned me that my mic was not working, so I fixed it but they went away in no time :ablobnervous:
I suggest to everyone to have a look! It's inspiring! A bit empty.... but #inspiring!
Have you ever explored it? Do you like it? :aphotoblob:
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Apparently this was achieved by some black magic, compiling a Decentraland GDextension written in #Rust .
It's the first Decentraland client that can run on Android (without counting the Unity client ported to Oculus Quest 2)
Metaver.se #Metaverse »Converging #design and #technology, #DearchSpace, #Metancy, and #W3rlds present the inaugural #MetaverseArchitectureBiennale, titled #PresenceoftheFuture. Set amid the surreal virtual realms of #Decentraland and #W3rlds, from 21-24 September.« https://www.designboom.com/architecture/first-metaverse-architecture-biennale-global-meta-architects-virtual-realm-07-14-2023/
Not only is the world itself buggy as hell because Decentraland is all about making crypto money, and the 3-D world doesn't even matter, but it also isn't decentralised, and it certainly hasn't invented decentralised 3-D virtual worlds.
#OpenSimulator has done that. In January 2007. And it has invented federation between decentralised virtual worlds in 2008 with the #Hypergrid.
Just to illustrate how decentralised #OpenSim is:
It is free and open-source, it is not owned by a company, and anyone can install their own grid (= world). There's even a special, third-party OpenSim "distribution" named #DreamGrid that makes it easy for people with no experience in running servers to install their own grid on their Windows computer at home. It has been installed way over 3,000 times already.
There are more than 400 active grids currently, possibly many more because stats about DreamGrid aren't easy to get. The Hypergrid lets an avatar registered on one grid travel to almost all the other grids, appearance, settings, inventory and all.
There isn't even an "official" grid. #OSgrid comes closest, and it contributes to the development, but it's still third-party. The devs don't have a grid. The lead dev, Ubit Umarov, only owns a sim attached to OSgrid.
OpenSimWorld, the main sim listing and community hub, is third-party yet again, run by someone who in turn only owns a few sims attached to OSgrid and not a grid of his own.
There are two virtual currencies that aren't limited to one grid each, Gloebit and Podex. Both are third-party again, and AFAIK only Gloebit offers one deposit for all grids. Most grids don't support payment at all. None of them are cryptocurrencies. OpenSim works entirely without a blockchain, without cryptocurrencies and without NFTs.
For comparison, Decentraland is a monolithic, centralised silo. It has only got one "instance" which is owned and operated by the owners of Decentraland itself, the Decentraland Foundation. The only "decentralised" thing about Decentraland is that it has its own cryptocurrency rather than relying on an existing one like Dogecoin.
By the same logic, Twitter is decentralised because it doesn't rely on Facebook or Google. OpenSim is as decentralised as Mastodon would be if mastodon.social and mastodon.online didn't exist.
> Where is a crypto crash?
More recently: #^https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/10/bloodbath-sudden-1-trillion-crypto-crash-sparks-fresh-coinbase-warning-and-tanks-the-price-of-bitcoin-ethereum-bnb-xrp-cardano-dogecoin-polygon-and-solana/
> Opensim a success? We are just 200 real people with thousands of alts.
That's your personal perception which you yourself think you "know" for a "fact".
If you really think this is a cold, hard fact, please prove it with a link to statistics.
By the way, here come cold, hard facts: the Hypergrid Business stats from June 15th.
#HypergridBusiness reports 424 active grids. Everyone would have to run at least two grids.
You refuse to believe that number? You think it's made up? It isn't just a number. Here's a list of all 424 grids. Count them. Then check the links. Almost all of them should be active.
125,841 standard regions on the reporting grids alone = each user has to have almost 630 standard regions on average.
#OSgrid alone reported 27,325 standard regions. If everyone had land on OSgrid, that'd be almost 130 standard regions per #OpenSim user.
Also, as of today, by the way, OSgrid lists 5,689 sims (taking varsims into account) on its official website, all by name. Only few of them are official. All the others are hosted by their owners and attached to OSgrid externally. OSgrid does not offer land rentals.
If every OpenSim user had land on OSgrid, everyone would have 28 sims or more on average attached to OSgrid. That's enough land for a stand-alone grid.
If you claim for a fact that this is bullshit, and either OSgrid or its staff makes up most of the names on the list, go in-world and check on the map whether these sims actually exist on the OSgrid map. Mind you, they may be offline. Many of them run on people's Windows PCs which they shut down when they don't need them. Nonetheless, these sims have existed and been online recently.
And that's only OSgrid. On average, everyone would have to own countless sims alll across the Hypergrid.
> I would compare much more with sim city. In opensim anyway, because most are just building landscapes and take pictures of it. SimCity has some more goals. lol
Goes to show you don't get out much.
What people actually do is hoard freebies and party. Female users also play Barbie with their avatars. And some have virtual sex.
But in general, most users don't spend more time than absolutely necessary decorating sims. Look at those many freebie sims that look like they were slapped together within one afternoon.
> You didn't mention thirdroom. Why?
Because I only wanted to pick out a few examples. If I had to include #ThirdRoom, I would also have to cover #VRchat and #Vircadia and #Overte and #RecRoom and #MozillaHubs etc. etc., just to give each and every virtual world out there a fair treatment. The article would have grown HUMONGOUS.
Even when it only came to free, open-source, decentralised virtual worlds, I would also have had to mention and analyse Vircadia, Overte and Mozilla Hubs and rip #Decentraland apart for lying into people's faces.
Besides, I know you're a huge Third Room fangurl. But Third Room is far from being as successful as #SecondLife or #Minecraft or #Roblox. It's a tech preview. It's in a very very early stage. It's far from having a community of thousands, having in-world places that you can spend weeks or months or years exploring, having in-world events etc.
Right now, Third Room is only just barely where Second Life was in 2002, only with public access. It is where OpenSim was in July 2007, immediately after OSgrid was launched, and before people flocked into OSgrid, claimed land and started building.
Also, since Third Room is based on Unity, this blocks creativity. Everything has to be built and scripted outside Third Room. That's like building an entire Second Life or OpenSim sim outside Second Life/OpenSim, scripting it outside Second Life/OpenSim, then dropping the whole thing into Second Life/OpenSim in one chunk, and if you want to change even a small detail, you have to go back outside Second Life/OpenSim and go through almost the whole process again because Unity doesn't let you do shit in-world.
> For opensim I only see one big problem. Stone age technology. Especially because of openGL and Firestorm still thinks we live in a 8 bit world.
32-bit. Second Life wouldn't even be technologically possible in 16-bit, much less 8-bit.
Also, you claim that #OpenGL is stone-age technology because its initial release was in 1992. Well, bad news for you: Your precious, oh-so-powerful MacBook Air M1 runs on an operating system from the age of dinosaurs. It's basically #BSD (macOS is based on Darwin, and Darwin is based on BSD), and BSD is from 1977.
Oh, and by the way, OpenGL has advanced over time. The minimum version required for the official Second Life viewer is 3.2 from August 2009, the minimum version recommended is 4.6 from July 2017.
> This can be changed if there would be young developers interested in creating high end graphics. But you have only nostalgic 60 years old men in opensim who are not skilled to develop new technology.
Another false claim of you which you "know" for a "fact": Everyone in OpenSim except for you is a crusty old geezer at an average age of 60 years.
> Thirdroom has 20 years old kids already who can develop new technology
Okay, let's check the factuality of this.
This is the Third Room code repository on GitHub.
The contributors, at least those that aren't bots, are:
Robert Long, software engineer
Rhea Danzey, senior SRE
Travis Ralston, senior software developer
At the age of 20, you can't be an engineer. You can't have an engineer's degree of any kind. You're still in university or college.
At the age of 20, you certainly can't have "senior" in your official job title.
At least some of these developers don't even look like they're 20. Not 25 either. Not even 30.
So next time you present your personal perception as cold, hard, undeniable facts, prove them. Or don't complain when someone comes with actual facts that contradict what you say and proves these.
A #metaverse based on the Holy Trinity of #blockchain, #cryptocurrency and #NFTs, but instead of developing a platform from scratch which costs money, they want to use #OpenSim which already exists, which works well enough, and which they can use for absolutely free.
And now they're looking for idiots who'll strap it to a blockchain and include something like #Dogecoin as a universal currency.
By having #OpenMetaverse in their name, they make themselves look like they've got something to do with the Open Metaverse Interoperability Group or even the Open Metaverse Foundation which is a project of the #LinuxFoundation. They're probably much closer to the Open Metaverse Alliance for Web3. Just look at who's in that alliance. I'm not even surprised to find that halfway-failed scam named #Decentraland amongst them.
Speaking of surprises, I wouldn't be surprised either if they simply tried to steal the source code of OpenSim and make it their own, just to discover afterwards what it actually looks like. But I would be surprised if OpenSim as it is actually profited from them in terms of code improvement.
Needless to say that whatever they'll cook up will not connect to the #Hypergrid which we already have. You can't sell parcels of land for, like, $10,000,000 to people who could easily teleport somewhere where they can rent much more land for $10/month. Also, their precious NFTs would be botted and offered in freebie stores in no time.
Oh, and just because they're meeting on #Kitely, doesn't mean they're affiliated with Kitely.
I'd actually like to be wrong on this.
🌌 'Lucid Dreams' theme
🗓️ Closes July 10 11:59pm UTC
❗Must be an interactive DCL scene, max 100 MB, using SDK 7 & AI technology
💸 The Future is a Dead Mall - Decentraland and the Metaverse | Folding Ideas
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This was announced by the financial institution in a press release.
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That is, you aren't that lucky actually. Said footage was always taken during the heyday from 2006 to 2008, and it's always horribly outdated and in a horrible quality. This gives outsiders the impression that Second Life is dead. If mass media don't believe this themselves and actually explicitly state it isn't, as rarely as both may occur, the footage makes it look like this is what Second Life looks like today.
After all, it's 20 years old now. And a 20-year-old "video game" always looks as old as it is, am I right? That is, unless there has been a reissue. There has never been a reissue of Second Life, though.
By the way, Second Life is not a video game. No, it isn't. No, really, it isn't.
And yes, it has evolved over the last 15 years. A lot.
Also, just because all content in World of Warcraft was made by Blizzard, doesn't mean that all content in Second Life was made by Linden Labs, and it certainly doesn't mean that all content in Second Life was made 20 years ago. Second Life is different. Nearly all in-world content was made by the users. And it is still being made. So it has evolved even more.
Nowadays, one Second Life avatar has many more vertices and polygons than an entire WoW scene, all NPCs included. And Second Life avatars look the part. But as long as mass media only dig up decades-old Second Life footage from their archives instead of getting fresh material, nobody outside the Second Life community will know.
Obligatory #OpenSim tangent: At least mass media know that there was something called Second Life. #OpenSimulator is entirely unknown to them. And so they continue to believe that Mark Zuckerberg was the first to use the term #metaverse for a real-life 3-D world (I can show you proof that the OpenSim community did in 2016 already, and it probably did as early as 2008 when the #Hypergrid was introduced). And tech media continue to believe that #Decentraland invented the decentralised, federated metaverse when actually OpenSim invented it in 2007 with federation coming in 2008 while Decentraland actually didn't.
Then again, typical OpenSim footage might probably be standard Ruth waddling around Pimple Island on low graphics settings.
The following is based on the Drakeposting #meme.
The Metaverse isn't dead; it just isn't what you believe it is. And it is older than everyone thinks.
Also, the concept of a free and decentralised metaverse is already reality. Surprise: It is not #Decentraland. It doesn't need a #blockchain, a #cryptocurrency or #NFTs. And it has been around for a decade and a half.
#Metaverse #VirtualWorlds #OpenSim #OpenSimulator
Except, somewhat like second life, it'll probably find an audience and limp along in perpetuity, making money for the big institutional Investors. Meanwhile those that spent their money on a small corner of #decentraland will probably make nothing. What a surprise.
The #Hypergrid, the interconnection between #OpenSimulator grids, is 15 years old this year. And yes, #OpenSim is actually #decentralised like you wouldn't believe. Over 420 big and small public grids and over 8,000 privately-run, home-hosted grids based on #DreamGrid, over 95% of which are on the Hypergrid, say a lot, I guess.
Oh, and it needs no #blockchain, it needs no #cryptocurrency, and it needs no #NFTs. It runs on the same technology as #SecondLife (which celebrates its 20th birthday this year, as in it's still alive, too) while being fully #FreeLibreOpenSourceSoftware.
#Decentraland #OpenMetaverseAlliance #OMA #OpenMetaverse #Decentralized #VirtualWorlds #Meme
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At least, so say the #cryptobros who have jumped upon the bandwagon of Mark Zuckerberg's announcement of having "invented the Metaverse" and are still trying to make a quick dollar.
All of this is complete humbug. #SecondLife is going to celebrate its 20th anniversary this year, and it is a 3-D #VirtualWorld all right, all without requiring a #blockchain or a #cryptocurrency or NFTs.
And Zuckerberg wasn't even the first to use the term Metaverse, not even for something that isn't pure fiction. #OpenSimulator has been around for 16 years with no blockchain, no cryptocurrency (in most cases, no currency at all) and no NFTs, and it's as decentral as #Decentraland claims to be but isn't. The term "metaverse" has been used in the #OpenSim scene at least since 2008 when the #Hypergrid was introduced.
So all this Web3 non-sense only works because mainstream and tech media believed that there was no operational 3-D virtual world, at least not "for grown ups", when Zuckerberg announced "the Metaverse". #HorizonWorldsIsNotTheMetaverse.
If you think #FoxNews and other #mainstream #MassMedia are bad, then I'd recommend taking a look at the "#Decentraland #Reporter" which has worse working conditions than #CGTN & #RT by literally allowing the masses to fire presenters and reporters on a whim - and yes that is an explicitly intentional feature...
WHO THE F**K THINKS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA?
Another Dan Olsen film, er, video essay is out.
Not technically a sequel to Line Goes Up (his fantastic piece about the financial, societal, and cultural dangers of #crypto and #blockchain garbage), but it covers adjacent topics: the Metaverse and its garbage copycat Decentraland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZhdpLXZ8Q&t=359s
Used the long weekend to catch up on some reading and also watched Folding Ideas' "The Future is a Dead Mall - #Decentraland and the #Metaverse" video. It's not quite as good and snarky as his brilliant "Line Goes Up – The Problem With #NFTs" from 2022 but it's entertaining and worth watching on a quiet evening. https://youtu.be/EiZhdpLXZ8Q
My #introduction !
I'm Eibriel, interested in AI, Free Software and Decentralization.
- Games in Decentraland
- Games inspired in Computational Semantics (Natural Language Understanding)
I think I'm funny, but I'm actually not.
This is my virtual me at work.
💀 The Future is a Dead Mall - Decentraland and the Metaverse
— Folding Ideas
#Decentraland announces SDK7 Beta !
And how they aren't really interested in decentralisation is obvious if you look at the #Metaverse. Most projects in this field are just-too-obvious attempts at get-rich-quick schemes by cryptobros. Jump onto the Metaverse bandwagon with a start-up, rake in lots of money by selling virtual land that's so outrageously expensive that it puts #SecondLife to shame, rake in more money by selling #NFTs, rake in even more money by watching the cryptocurrency of your choice get more and more expensive.
But since the Metaverse is supposed to be neither one big walled garden nor a bunch of walled gardens, it has to be decentralised in some way. Enter #Decentraland. It claims to be the, quote, "first decentralized Metaverse." This is false already: The first decentralised metaverse was #OpenSimulator which was launched in 2007, eight years before Decentraland, which has been using the term "metaverse" long before it became a buzzword, and which is still around and constantly expanding with several times more landmass than Second Life.
Yes, Decentraland is open-source and licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. But this seems to be only to either satisfy those who demand the Metaverse be FLOSS or delegate most of the development to the community. Yes, Decentraland is officially in the hands of a non-profit. But this seems to be a ploy to keep big players from buying it out. Not to mention how Decentraland as an actual #VirtualWorld feels cobbled together quickly, like an attempt at making tons of money by marketing the usual #blockchain, #crypto & #NFT recipe at people who don't easily throw themselves at big corporations.
Also, I've yet to be convinced that Decentraland is truly decentral to the point of there being privately-run places over which the owners/maintainers of the platform don't have a say.
For comparison: The #Fediverse is that decentral. Some projects like Mastodon have instances run by the main devs, but only to have "official" instances for newcomers to easily find a home; others don't have any. And each instance is entirely run and ruled over by its owners, not by the owners/maintainers of the project itself.
And #OpenSim is that level of decentral, too. There is no central ruler, no central authority in any shape or form. There isn't even an "official" #grid. The main dev doesn't own any land beyond his private sim attached to #OSgrid where he isn't even one of the grid admins.
But cryptobros would never let decentralisation go that far, for that'd allow people to use their services without making money for them.
Coindesk profile of #FTX #crypto exchange and #Alameda leadership: https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/11/22/the-whos-who-of-the-ftx-inner-circle/
- Alameda "began taking in 'huge' profits placing highly leveraged bets on assets like #dogecoin after noticing its price went up whenever Elon Musk tweeted about the meme coin."
- "Young people tend to be too risk averse” - Caroline Ellison, former Alameda CEO
- FTX’s "#Metaverse Nightclub-Loving Audit Firm" Prager Metis operates in #Decentraland https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/11/meet-the-metaverse-night-clubloving-audit-firm-that-presided-over-ftxs-financials/