#openWeb
Through the conversations, we covered a broad range of fields of open, including #OpenAccess #OpenEducation #OpenSource #FreeSoftware #OpenData #OpenWeb #OpenCulture #OpenGLAM — as well as issues like #DigitalRights and #SocialJustice
@damon @Hamishcampbell seems to be talking about creating a governance model for the #fediverse. He talks about the need for some overarching #governance model, rather than a governing body. He suggests that copying the corporations way of doing things may not play to the strengths of the fediverse. I.e the lack of control afforded by not having a governing body promotes creativity.
#OBG
#OpenWebGovernanceBody
#openweb
https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki
We self-host nearly 3000 videos on our server http://visionon.tv, and you can watch over, 8000 more federated videos on activism and technology. Self-hosting costs real money which we don't have, if you would like to support this #DIY #openweb then set up a recurring donation here https://opencollective.com/open-media-network to keep his space #OMN available for people to step away from the #dotcons mess we are all in.
Resitence to censorship is as much social than it is technological. Think abut how being public protects your free speech etc. how can we level power to give everyone a share of this "power". Tech has a role, but how we choose to shape our society has a MUCH bigger role in this #openweb vs #closedweb
@shoq no not, we are doing a different project #openweb lets support this and not get distracted by #mainstreaming mess agenda :)
🔎 As we carry on with our investigation into the status of #OpenMovement, we are sharing two more responses to our funding "Paradox of Open" essay along with our reflection on how to move forward — "Paradox of Open: Redux": https://openfuture.eu/publication/paradox-of-open-responses/
#OpenAccess #OpenEducation #OpenSource #OpenData #OpenWeb #DigitalRights #DigitalCommons #DigitalPublicSpace #OpenGLAM #Copyright
The #OGB has 3 subjects to talk about. 1) tradition of working activist grassroots organizing 2) the use of technological federation, ActivityPub and the Fediverse traditions to scale. 3) original thinking, bringing these together for grassroots #openweb producer governance, this part needs lots of input. https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/working-and-thinking-on-native-openweb-aproches-to-governance/2898?u=hamishcampbell
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/working-and-thinking-on-native-openweb-aproches-to-governance/2898/12?u=hamishcampbell I wonder how much people recognize that from a #openweb “native” prospective we are failing in just about every way in the #Fediverse apart from more people, and more tech mess. Please don’t JUMP to take this the wrong way, more people is GOOD, more tech mess is part of the process.
Today, to continue our exploration of the #OpenMovement, we are resurfacing critical essays written by Balázs Bodó, @JeniT, and Leonhard Dobusch.
The articles examine the core principles and approaches of the Open Movement and were published in response to our own "Paradox of Open" https://openfuture.eu/publication/paradox-of-open-responses/ 📚 #OpenAccess #OpenEducation #OpenSource #OpenData #OpenWeb #DigitalRights #SocialJustice
@SecurityWriter My counterpoint is #NotAllWebsites, I guess. If you really like the "five giant websites, each filled with screenshots of the other four" future, adblockers are the way to guarantee it. It's fine to correctly say "that shit doesn't work" about sites that drank too much #AdTech Koolaide, but if we throw the open-web baby out with the adtech bathwater, we won't have any #OpenWeb sites left at all.
Thus: http://www.erosblog.com/2022/06/01/no-adblocking-on-erosblog/ -- "Welcome to hell. We live here now."
Remember “Open APIs?” How Tim O’Reilly told us they were how we would build the “open web” in “Web 2.0?”
Turns out an Open API is open in the sense that a gate owned by someone else is open. In that it can just as easily be closed and locked at their whim.
#open #APIs #openAPIs #web2 #openWeb #SiliconValley #openWashing #timOReilly #freedom
We are about to kick off a campaign that sums up our critical engagement with the term “openness”. Every Wednesday for the next 10 weeks, we will be sharing resources on where #OpenMovement currently stands 📬 Looking forward to your feedback!
Defo better than the #OligarchsPlatforms for choice.
I.T. has the same level of #ediscovery so WOT's the problem 🥁💥? Right? 🥁💥
Perhaps the #BusinessModel of #harassment that the #OligarchsSocialMediaPlatforms are _known_ for can't be established and their 'hidden schadenfreude' #MonetisingAbuse can't be realized in public due to the #OpenWeb nature, like #email, which is currently making #ProjectBarcelona's journey into the #IPS & #IDS frontend feeder infra into the #fediverse that much more... Interesting, probably, maybe? 😌
The #OGB project is not about creating an organization that tells everyone what protocols and standards to use in the fediverse, but rather about developing better ways of having good "trust" based conversations and "trust" based "governance" in the #openweb. The project is based on hundreds of years of on-the-ground organizing that has shaped every "freedom" we enjoy and is done in a #KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) approach.
Hamish Campbell is an #openweb organic intellectual and a part of the #OMN. He is the owner of the website http://hamishcampbell.com, which features his projects, videos, and blog posts. He is also active on social media platforms such as the #Fediverse, Twitter and YouTube. Hamish is interested in the intersection of politics and technology and believes that all code is ideology solidified into action. He is critical of contemporary code based on capitalism.
WordPress is celebrating its 20th anniversary today!
https://wordpress.org/news/2023/05/celebrating-20-years-of-wordpress/
I moved my personal site to it 5 years ago. From my blog post:
"I am also interested in exploring other open web technologies, like ActivityPub and OStatus. I’m not 100% convinced that Mastodon will take over Twitter, but there is a lot of promise in the ideas and technologies behind it."
https://stefanbohacek.com/blog/migrating-the-site-to-wordpress/
There sure is!
#WordPress #anniversary #OpenWeb #IndieWeb #ActivityPub #mastodon #fediverse
With the 20-year-old #visionontv project, we are on the #openweb at http://visionon.tv and in the #dotcons at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUncultovd6UtENpjgC61-A please support radical grassroots media.
#openweb spaces, a lot of social suicidal behaver - people strive to destroy the #openweb by pushing non "native" #NGO structures and paths. it's a hard thing to pushback on, it's #mainstreaming "common sense" bad behaver and a VERY bad outcome, please try not to be this problem.
In these #openweb spaces, the is a lot of social suicidal behaver - in that people strive to destroy the #openweb by pushing non "native" #NGO structures and paths over this space. it's a hard thing to pushback on, as it's #mainstreaming "common sense". This is bad behaver and a VERY bad outcome, please try not to be this problem.
simply to manage our shoaling work for composting that is needed for fresh #openweb fertile growth.
@GossiTheDog A lovely #openweb comment, yes more #techshit to compost, do you have a shovel #OMN
@Tutanota @noybeu I would be better disposed towards the EU if it now spends that 1.2 billion euro fine money on supporting #OpenWeb and #Fediverse projects.
The future of #socialmedia is open, #decentralized, and interoperable. Just like email.In my latest newsletter, I explore the battle for the future of social media and why #openweb standards are at the center.
The date of registration of the fediverse domains I'm connected to was particularly interesting to me.
The chart is pretty much what I expected, but it is pretty cool to see the actual breakdown.
Domain registrars are really cashing in on the fediverse right now.
The #FEP is a good grassroots initiative, that is "névé" and troubling as it lacks "meaning" and is running as a "hobby" project with little if any social buy in.
NOTE: no amount of technical thinking/tinkering will add "meaning" as this is a social, not a technical problem.
This also partly explanes why we have the splintering of effect here in #activertypub and in the wider "protocol wars" https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/lets-talk-about-the-protocol-wars/3177
How do you grow social buy in to a #openweb project?
I'll take this opportunity to renew my plea to browsers that claim to be in favor of the #openWeb that it's way past the time you put your engineers where your mouth is, and get back into leading the adoption of open technology, instead of blindly following the “leader” in their destruction of the same —and not just when it's a matter of hype.
12/12
I'm not as optimist as others about the #openWeb and #indieWeb making a return comparable to the days of glory of the blogosphere, but I do have feeling that it will be a bridge, and those finding their space there will have an edge in whatever the new paradigm is going to be, even if it currently seems like a cause lost in the mist of unfriendly User Agents and single-user apps.
11/n
And yes, as individuals this can be extremely frustrating, because the feeling is that even knowing what would be best to support the #openWeb, there's the feeling that our choice have little effect if any. And in this context, the non-ubiquitousness of #RSS production and consumption “where people gather” often means a need to double or triple the efforts to reach out and connect with other people with matching interests, especially for those whose livelihood depends on it.
9/n
A wide spread of voices to build consensuses on what is the Fediverse and how it is “native” to the #openweb
This is both a technical and a social movement - one thing is obvious we do have a culture to share, what this culture is comes from meany places.
Understanding the overlaps would be helpful, #FOSS development (#4opens) is likely a good first step on this path.
There's a lot I like about the #fediverse, but my favorite part might just be seeing all these random domains people set up for themselves or their communities.
The shift to #mainstreaming from the huge influx, is a big cultural mission to keep the #openweb #4opens
"Common sense" in #mainstreaming is an easy-to-understand problem we need to compost, shovels come to hand.
The shift to #mainstreaming from the huge influx, is a big cultural mission to keep the #openweb #4opens
"Common sense" in #mainstreaming is an easy-to-understand problem we need to compost, shovels come to hand.
@dannotdaniel all these poles show the shift to #mainstreaming from the huge influx, we have a big cultural mission to keep the #openweb #4opens
"Common sense" in #mainstreaming is an easy-to-understand problem we need to compost, shovels come to hand.
Please link and talk about the #openweb or the #fediverse to start to compost the mess people are, making, thanks.
#mainstreaming #NGO thinking people prioritizing BRANDING in both instances and codebase are making a mess of the #openweb reboot.
We need responsible people to STOP pushing only #Mastodon as this is not helping, just look at the SPAM currently spewing from this process. With this mess we are building a codebase and an instance that are “too big to fail” this is absurdly stupid and not needed.
I see the hashtag #openweb is trending that good.
Can we build a consensus around “BRANDING” for the #openweb and #fedivers https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/branding-on-the-fediverse/2534/39?u=hamishcampbell
@rysiek @kinyutaka
#Mastodons current moves are an example of why this thread is here, we need ideas for a culture of “responsible” BRANDING in the Fediverse, if we are not a #openweb culture then why are we here doing this work, few people get paid, almost all of us our working on this for cultural beliefs, this is a shared culture, cats :wink:
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/branding-on-the-fediverse/2534/8?u=hamishcampbell
https://blog.erlend.sh/assembling-community-os
An open social web is possible, and it is in no way an understatement to say that our interpersonal relationships as well as democratic institutions will be far better off for it.
Digital autonomy begets individual freedom begets fairness & equality.
The hopeful possibility of this moment lies in the open-social web protocols which make up the foundations of a comms & coordination ecosystem owned and operated by the general public.
If the Internet of the 90s and early 00s was about listening to each other through cans, and finding connections:
"Facebook is like a can within the can that pipes in all the cans but makes decisions about which cans I want to hear and most of the cans are foreign spies anyway.
Twitter is like all the cans, all at once but also if Elon musk’s can had the thickest wire attached to it and I can’t turn it off and also the can is breaking."
@mathew this is a #openweb loosely connected network of trust links the is going to be some mess, so good not to get stressed over this, no idea about the issue, It's unlikely to be the instance as am an admin so should know... likely something broken in the loss bit of federation - what codebase are they posting from?
The "protocol wars" on the #openweb such as #bluesky, #Nostr, and #activertypub. That building bridges between these protocols can be a good solution, as it is a permissionless way to connect different protocols without needing to get the codebase to change their project. The protocols are all #4opens and #openweb native, which is a positive development. However, the cultures of these protocols are different and can create messiness in the discussions.
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/lets-talk-about-the-protocol-wars/3177
On this #WorldPressFreedomDay I'd like to give a shoutout to all the news outlets and journalists who made the sensible decision to help further the fediverse and help make the internet more open and free.
- https://flipboard.social/@Flipboard/110274791113796301
- https://www.presscheck.org/outlets
#news #journalism #FreePress #PressFreedom #fediverse #OpenWeb
For #Firefox and its forks, this means enabling it out of the box for main builds. For #Blink-based browsers (@Vivaldi are you listening?), this means rolling back Google's patch to remove it, and help maintain it with community effort. Ditto for #WebKit. The #openWeb needs something like what the #DocumentFoundation did for the office productivity suites and formats.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to give any weight to anybody talking about the #openWeb unless they start putting actual effort in to break through Google's monopoly. And if you ever dare talk about something like #JpegXL, you'd better do it from a position of credibility, which means supporting in the first place.
As I've already mentioned elsewhere (https://sociale.network/@oblomov/110073403788621333 http://wok.oblomov.eu/tecnologia/opera-requiem-3/ etc), much more so than #Google's abuse of its dominant position, the responsibility for the loss of the open web lies on the shoulder of the minority browsers. Why isn't #Mozilla shipping #JpegXL support in current releases of #Firefox? What about any other browser, #FLOSS or not, pretending to be interested in the #openWeb?
Yep, we are talking past each other, let's try and focus.
Keep our "tent" standing to bring more people in from the rain.
#UX is less of an issue in this #openweb reboot from the hundreds of #geekproblem projects that have failed over the last 20 years... so the #fedivers is doing MUCH better on this front.
Let's work with this step, to take the next step, please try and avoid tripping over the tent pegs and bring the thing down, so we are all left in the rain ;)
It's disappointing that people will move on as if nothing happened.
The lesson here should be: we can't trust a platform where one person makes major decisions.
#Development #Evolutions
30th anniversary of licensing the web for general use and at no cost · The World Wide Web has changed our lives https://ilo.im/12nfcr
“Our vision for the future is a web that is international and inclusive, respectful of its users. A web that supports truth better than falsehood, people more than profits, humanity rather than hate. A web that works for everyone, because of everyone.” — Coralie Mercier
Been thinking a lot lately about the conflict between:
- Making the web more open and interoperable with APIs, data exports, and easier search functionality
- The need for privacy and consent with opt-in defaults, protections against data scraping / mining, owned + siloed websites
These values seem fundamentally opposed to me, no? Am I missing something?
So, what really *is* the fediverse? Is Diaspora part of it?
Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking